Diesel and Dusty

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Annabelle Ruby and Teresa Irene (Lincoln, Michael)

William George “Will” and Finlay Jack “Fin”

 

Girls

Adley Isabelle (Evie)

Alice Polly Frances

Allegra Bluebelle (Daniel, Adam, James, Olivier, Charles, Oscar) – named in honour of Canberra’s centenary; the bluebell is their floral emblem

Asher Calliope

Chanel Jenna

Clementine Quinn (Charlotte)

Elektra Sue (Myles, Julian, Ewan, Gabriel, Raphael)

Elizabeth Ottilie Grace (Noah, Isaac, Levi)

Estella Violet (Jasper)

Isabella Jessie Jan Jean

Isla Antoinette (Xanthe)

Kitty Alice (Annabelle)

Lottie Harriet (Archie)

Sydney Elise

Varnya Lee (Anastasia)

 

Boys

Aspen Logan David

Callum Cave

Daelin Chevy (Zayne, Mannix)

Diesel James (Tyler, Amelia, Lilianna)

Dusty Mason (Willow, Taj)

Edward Charles Montgomery “Charlie”

Felix Theodore

Heiko Kadier

Jed Brok

Joel Sparks

Karnak Jay (Sharna-Lee, Teri-Jean, Rachel, Matthew, Jasmin)

Paddy Banjo (Madylin)

Rupert Lyell (Tom)

Stephen Danger

Talon Kai

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Chloe

Boys: Liam

(Photo shows boys playing in the floodwaters of suburban Brisbane, January 2013)

Late Celebrity Baby News: Vince and Barbara Grella

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al-grella-20130129155521579989-620x349Soccer player Vince Grella, and his wife Barbara, welcomed their son Eduardo almost a year ago. Eduardo Grella has twin sisters named Victoria and Sophia, aged 11. Vincenzo, or “Vince”, began his senior career in Australia in the mid-1990s, before moving to Italy, where he spent more than ten years playing for clubs in the professional league. He spent four seasons with the Blackburn Rovers in the English Premier League before returning to Australia last year to play for Melbourne Heart. Vince has represented the Australia national team on 46 occasions, and has played for Australia in the 2006 and 2010 World Cups. He has just retired from professional soccer, after battling persistent injuries. Vince met his Italian wife Barbara in Empoli, Italy. Next month he will return to his home in Florence, where Barbara and the children live, and plans to remain in Italy, which is where his parents were born. He wants to continue working in soccer, but isn’t yet sure in what capacity.

Famous Name: Greta

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11/11/2011 NEWS: Greta. Ned Kelly Burial.On January 20 this year, the story of bushranger Ned Kelly reached a conclusion, with his dying wish fulfilled, and his remains buried in the cemetery at Greta, in Victoria’s north-east. As a convicted murderer, Kelly was denied burial in consecrated ground after his execution in November 1880. His headless body was dumped in a pit and covered in lime.

A Requiem Mass was held at St Patrick’s in Wangaratta the preceding Friday; there are about 450 descendants of Ned Kelly, and many of them attended the church. During the homily, Monsignor John White said that some people had written to object to Ned Kelly receiving a public liturgy, but that the service was not to make judgement, but to bring closure. The service ended with In the Sweet By-and-By, the hymn Kelly is said to have sung in his cell the night before he was hanged.

Under a marquee, Ned Kelly was privately buried next to the unmarked gravesite of his mother Ellen; his brother Dan, and Steve Hart, one of his gang-members, also lie in unmarked graves in Greta cemetery. Ned’s coffin was adorned with a wreath of native Australian flowers and the green sash he was awarded in his youth for saving a boy from drowning. The coffin was buried deep, and surrounded by concrete to prevent looting. There are also five mounds of earth instead of one, to deter grave robbers.

The district of Greta is deep in “Kelly country“, the region of rural Victoria where Ned Kelly was born, grew up, and fought. His famous last stand at Glenrowan was less than 10 miles from Greta. Many of the Kelly family still live in the area, and the Ned Kelly legend remains compelling, with almost every local having their own Kelly-related tale to tell.

The district is thought to be named after the River Greta in Cumbria, England, part of the background to Rokeby, a poem by Sir Walter Scott which was popular at the time. The river’s name is Old Norse, and means “rocky river”. It is pronounced GREE-ta.

This is somewhat embarrassing to admit, but for a long time I thought the girl’s name Greta was also said GREE-ta. I knew it was short for the German name Margareta, and assumed it was said to rhyme with Rita, which is short for the Latinate name Margarita (both names of course are relatives of the name Margaret).

I was in my early twenties before I met someone named Greta, and discovered the name is (as I’m sure you all know) said GRET-uh. As the Greta I met happened to be in the public eye, the fact that I was ignorant how her name was pronounced seemed even more embarrassing.

One of the most famous women with this name was the Swedish-born Hollywood star Greta Garbo, famed for her austere beauty and luminous screen presence. Mysterious and reclusive, she shunned publicity and lived a very private life. Here we also know the Italian-born Australian actress Greta Scacchi, who grew up in Perth, but has lived and worked in England for many years – although she visits Australia from time to time.

As you see, this is a name at home in several countries, and Greta is a Top 100 name in Sweden, Hungary and Italy. In the United States it is #684 and fairly stable, and in the UK it is #586 and climbing.

In Australia, Greta was in rare use in the 1900s, and has enjoyed a very uneven career. The highest it ever got was #206 in the 1930s (at the apex of Ms Garbo’s success), and it disappeared altogether in the 1950s and 1960s. It has also hit lesser peaks in the 1910s, the 1970s and the 1990s. The name hasn’t charted since 2009 – but given the way it has jumped up and down the charts, you can expect to see it again before too long (but not too much of it).

In other words, this is a name with plenty of history in Australia, but not tons of use, and has never come anywhere close to being popular. As such, it retains something of the mystique that Greta Garbo radiated – cool, reserved, exclusive; a name selected by discerning parents. Make no mistake, Greta is a very hip choice.

Greta is the cosseted darling of name nerds, who believe it to be beautiful, dignified and sadly neglected by those who fail to appreciate her (these are the same name nerds who would drop Greta like a hot potato if masses of parents actually took their advice and called their daughters Greta, so it became Top Ten. Then Greta would be “Such a nice name – but simply ruined by everyone using it”).

So here’s another embarrassing admission. I’m not a huge fan of the name Greta, which to me has a rather harsh sound, reminding me of words such as grim, grisly, groan, gritty, grizzle, gross, grotty, granite, grumpy, grouch, grate, grasp, growl, grovel, grubby, gruff, gruesome, grumble, grump, grunt and regret. Somehow it never seems to remind me of graceful, gratitude, greetings, grand, great, groovy and egret! Which is manifestly unfair.

Perhaps if I could play psychoanalyst to myself, I might theorise that the real reason I don’t care for Greta is that it is inextricably linked in my subconscious to the embarrassment of not knowing how to pronounce a celebrity’s name when meeting them – and that even the Greta I met being very beautiful and extremely charming could not wipe out my feelings of shame. Indeed, perhaps that made them worse.

In other words, don’t pay any attention to my opinions about this name. It’s not Greta, it’s me.

POLL RESULT: Greta received a very creditable 76% approval rating. The name Greta was seen as beautiful and dignified (32%), and cool and European (18%), although 16% thought it was frumpy and harsh. 8% thought the name Greta was neglected and needed to be used more, while 6% noted that if it was used more, it would no longer be hip. A besotted 3% insisted they would still use Greta even if it was the #1 name. Only one person preferred the pronunciation GREE-ta.

(Picture shows Greta cemetery in Victoria)

Celebrity Baby News: NRL Babies

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555992-brett-white-cassie-adland-melbourne-storm-wedddingBrett White from the Canberra Raiders, and his wife Cassie, welcomed their fourth child on January 17, and have named their son Joey Brett. Joey White was born at 4.45 pm, and joins older siblings Georgia, Jake and Colt.

Gerard Beale from the St George Illawarra Dragons, and his fiancee Roimata Ransfield, welcomed their son Nixon six weeks ago. Gerard notes that he is often asked (perhaps teasingly?) whether Nixon’s name has any reference to disgraced former US president Richard “Tricky Dicky” Nixon, but says he and Roimata just chose the name because they liked it. The name Nixon seems set to become another celebrity favourite.

(Picture shows Brett and Cassie White with their two eldest children)

Name Update: Master Lewis Waltzes In!

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chocolate-names-lewisKate and Steve didn’t think they’d ever be able to choose a baby name, because she liked old-fashioned names, and he preferred something more modern. However, within a few weeks of writing into the blog, they were able to agree on both a girl name and a boy name.

Kate had a strong hunch that she was going to have a boy, and it turns out she was right. Their son was born early and unexpectedly, but in good health, on January 8, and his name is

LEWIS JOHN

little brother to Madeline.

Kate saw the name Louis amongst the celebrity baby name announcements on Waltzing More Than Matilda, and thought that an anglicised Lewis would make a better fit with Madeline. Both names are English versions of French names, and both are classics in Australia, with a similar level of popularity. The middle name is a family name, chosen to honour a loved one.

Congratulations on your baby boy, Kate and Steve, and for not only reaching agreement on a baby name, but finding one which is such a perfect match with his sister.

(Picture is the name Lewis written in chocolate)

Baby Names from Victoria Used Less Than 10 Times in 2012

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More fun with the Victorian data – all those names which were used more than 5 times, but less than 10 times last year. Looking for a rare name? You just might find it here.

I did not include variant spellings of more popular names, names where the variant spellings added up to more than 9 uses, or unisex names where the numbers of boys and girls together added up to more than 9.

I did include short forms and elaborations of more popular names, and forms of more popular names from different countries/languages.

Used 9 Times

Girls

Boys

  • Aarush
  • Ansh
  • Cassius
  • Darby
  • Dhruv
  • Edison
  • Francesco
  • Frank
  • Harris
  • Hector
  • Jace
  • Joe
  • Jordy
  • Kane
  • Maddox
  • Mahmoud
  • Massimo
  • Monty
  • Nikhil
  • Paddy
  • Samarth
  • Sid
  • Silas
  • Solomon
  • Taylan
  • Tony
  • Troy
  • Vince
  • Walter

Used 8 Times

Girls

  • Aadya
  • Alkali
  • Amity
  • Angelique
  • Ariella
  • Brylee
  • Carly
  • Cassandra
  • Cassidy
  • Demi
  • Jiya
  • Kalani
  • Kelsey
  • Kyla
  • Libby
  • Louisa
  • Luciana
  • Mannat
  • Mariana
  • Myla
  • Nancy
  • Ngoc
  • Paris
  • Rihanna
  • Ruth
  • Sahar
  • Shiloh
  • Tasneem
  • Wendy
  • Zol

Boys

  • Abraham
  • Aleksandar
  • Alessio
  • Amos
  • Ash
  • Carlos
  • Cash
  • Chance
  • Colby
  • Cole
  • Cristiano
  • Dimitri
  • Drake
  • Duke
  • Dusty
  • Francis
  • Gavin
  • Hao
  • Imran
  • Jeremiah
  • Jim
  • Johan
  • Jovan
  • Landon
  • Long
  • Marcel
  • Maxim
  • Nelson
  • Nixon
  • Oakley
  • Raiden
  • Shane
  • Stanley
  • Tanner
  • Trent
  • Veer
  • Willem
  • Wilson
  • Yahya

Used 7 Times

Girls

  • Adelaide
  • Aditi
  • Anita
  • Ann
  • Aubrey
  • Beatrice
  • Casey
  • Elektra
  • Esme
  • Estella
  • Hafsa
  • Henrietta
  • Jenny
  • Joyce
  • Judy
  • Kavya
  • Kyra
  • Linda
  • Malak
  • Marissa
  • Mercy
  • Montana
  • Noor
  • Saffron
  • Sahara
  • Samira
  • Sharni
  • Tanya
  • Vienna

Boys

  • Aditya
  • Alessandro
  • Archibald
  • Caelan
  • Daksha
  • Darren
  • Denzel
  • Emre
  • Fabian
  • Gilbert
  • Giuseppe
  • Hendrix
  • Jamal
  • Jedidiah
  • Jun
  • Karim
  • Kelvin
  • Lakyn
  • Lennon
  • Lucian
  • Marlon
  • Milton
  • Neel
  • Rayan
  • Royce
  • Scott
  • Steve
  • Taha

Used 6 Times

Girls

  • Katerina
  • Kiana
  • Kitty
  • Krishna
  • Kyah
  • Liv
  • Mahi
  • Margot
  • Meadow
  • Melinda
  • Meredith
  • Nadine
  • Nia
  • Nikki
  • Portia
  • Rani
  • Rania
  • Rhea
  • Rosa
  • Sandra
  • Saoirse
  • Serene
  • Shreya
  • Sneha
  • Stacey
  • Sumaya
  • Susan
  • Tamika
  • Tanisha
  • Thu
  • Vera

Boys

  • Jarrah
  • Jonas
  • Julius
  • Keanu
  • Kenny
  • Knox
  • Koda
  • Luis
  • Magnus
  • Mahdi
  • Memphis
  • Mikail
  • Milan
  • Murray
  • Musa
  • Neil
  • Novak
  • Odin
  • Quade
  • Rehan
  • Reyansh
  • Saad
  • Santiago
  • Shaurya
  • Siddharth
  • Steele
  • Stirling
  • Talon
  • Tarkyn
  • Tex
  • Tim
  • Wade

Should She Change the Spelling of Her Daughter’s Name?

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U1264Laura has a five-month-old daughter named Lijsbeth, which is a traditional Dutch spelling of the name Lisbet, and is pronounced LEES-bet.

Few people have been able to pronounce Lijsbeth’s name, and even her Australian grandparents haven’t been able to learn to say it properly. Laura is getting heartily sick of having to correct people all the time, and feels bad for her daughter that nobody knows how to say her name – especially as Lijsbeth’s big sister has a very simple, straightforward name (for example, Katie). She has started telling people to just call Lijsbeth by the nickname Bessie, even though Laura doesn’t particularly care for this name.

Since her daughter was born, Laura has learned from a Dutch cousin that the spelling Lijsbeth is considered so old-fashioned in the Netherlands that even Dutch people would have trouble pronouncing it.

Laura is starting to think it might be a good idea to officially change the spelling of her daughter’s name, probably to Lisbet (said the same way as Lijsbeth), although she’s not completely sure. She still wants her baby girl to have a Dutch name with Dutch pronunciation, like Lisbet, but she’s worried it won’t be said properly.

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This is the first time someone has written in to the blog having already named their baby, but not completely satisfied with the results.

I think that if you want to change the spelling of your daughter’s name, then you’ve got good reasons for wanting to do so. In just five months you’ve already run into issues, and if you’re fed up with constantly correcting people after this brief period, you have to remember that Lijsbeth has a lifetime of it ahead of her.

Not only that, but you’ve also discovered that her Dutch name, chosen to honour her heritage, would be a curiosity and a stumbling block even in the Netherlands. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to use the modern Dutch spelling instead.

I think Lisbet is much simpler to spell than Lijsbeth, but I’m not sure it would solve the pronunciation issues, because they are said exactly the same way. I don’t actually think LEES-bet is that hard to say, once you’ve learned how, but explaining it to everyone is probably a pain.

Luckily, you only have to register the spelling of a baby’s name, not its pronunciation, so I would just concentrate on the spelling for now, and worry about pronunciation later. Changing the spelling might make it easier for people to understand; you may become more relaxed about people’s attempts to say the name correctly; it’s possible that in time you will decide to compromise on how the name is said. I would just put that issue to one side for now and see what happens.

I think your idea of using a nickname for everyday use is a brilliant one, but what a shame you don’t like your daughter’s nickname. Is there something else you could use instead? Lisa, Leesie, Libby, Libsy, Lili, Lilbet, Itsy, Issy, Betty, Betsy, Bitsy, Bibi, Biddie, Birdie …. ?

As your daughter gets older, she will probably develop her own ideas about how she’d like her name to be pronounced, and what nickname she would prefer. Our names do often evolve and change with us, and she may come home from kinder one day and announce that her nickname is Lissy, because that’s what all the other kids call her.

The good news is that it is relatively easy to officially change your child’s name (or its spelling) before it is 12 months old. My understanding is that in the first year, it’s not considered a legal name change, but simply an amendment to the birth certificate. That means that whatever the original name was, it will simply be wiped from the records as if it had never existed.

Each state and territory has different rules, but in some states it is free, and in others you will have to pay a nominal administrative fee. Just like registering the name for the first time, both parents must sign the certificate at Births, Deaths and Marriages, and once you have the new birth certificate, you’ll have to change her details with Medicare, Centrelink, the doctor’s office, and anywhere else that has her name in their database. A bit of paperwork to fill in, but that’s about it.

You may also want to send a mass e-mail to everyone you know, briefly explaining you’ve changed the spelling of your daughter’s name to something simpler, but that the pronunciation will stay the same. This could also be an opportunity to let them know that a nickname of your choice can be used instead.

It is important that you are absolutely sure that you want to do this, that you know exactly which spelling you want to use, and that both parents are completely on board with it. It’s really something you don’t want to delay either, so I would get on to it as soon as you know what you want to do.

Good luck Laura, I’m sure you will be able to come up with a solution that makes life easier for you, and ultimately for your little girl as well. Write in again if you still feel unsure about it, or run into further issues down the track.

NOTE: In the end, Laura decided her daughter’s name didn’t need to be changed.

POLL RESULTS: Just over half of respondents voted that the baby’s name be changed to Lisbet. Nearly 18% voted for the spelling to be unchanged.

(Image from Embroidery Library)

Bonnie Blue and Scarlet Alice

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Alessandro and Stefania

Jake William and Ella Grace

Kai Alexander and India Joy (Noah)

Pippa Jane and Lenny John (Flynn)

 

Girls

Ada Patricia

Beatrice Cloud (Anouk)

Bonnie Blue (Francis)

Edelle Ishtvana

Elsa Maeve (Ruby)

Freya Honey May

Iris Emmeline (Leeara, Mehki, Eli, Sullivan)

Ivy Rumer (Harry, Lucy)

Lawson Beth (Maccalyn, Bridie, Albey)

Matilda Evangeline Darling (Miranda)

Mischa Madeleine (Tora)

Scarlet Alice (Caleb)

Tahlia Shanice

Valentina Nicoletta

Zahli Sage (Ashton)

 

Boys

Albert Henry Kenneth

Ayrton Paolo

Baxter Flynn

Benedict Fox

Carey Jordan (Ryan)

Claye Washington (Gemma, Milla)

Edwin Hugh (Georgia, Reuben)

Jimmie J

Kaiyu Olli

Peyton Zane (Keira, Austin)

Reef Jaxon (Imogen)

Steel Geoffrey (Skylar)

Tiago Pasquale

Van Rafferty (Grey, Frankie)

Vincent Maverick Quinten

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Charlotte

Boys: Thomas

(Picture shows an Elvis impersonator at the Parkes Elvis Festival, held in January; photo from The Daily Telegraph)

The Top 25 Names of 1901

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With all the name data that is coming out in the papers, there nearly always seems to be a conclusion that old-fashioned names are back in style. So I thought it would be interesting to look at the Top 25 baby names from the year of Federation, and see how many of these old-fashioned names are back in style 110 years later – or perhaps never went out of style.

The information on Australian baby names from 1901 is from the Powerhouse Museum, and their current positions are for NSW, also supplied by the Powerhouse Museum.

GIRLS

  1. Dorothy (last charted in 1970s)
  2. Jean (last charted in 1980s)
  3. Mary (never left charts, currently #101 and rising)
  4. Winifred (last charted in 1950s)
  5. Marjorie (last charted in 1960s)
  6. Doris (last charted in 1960s)
  7. Kathleen (last charted in late 2000s)
  8. Bridget (never left charts, currently #416 and falling)
  9. Elizabeth (never left Top 100, currently #44 and stable)
  10. Eileen (last charted in early 2000s)
  11. Lilian (left charts during 1960s, currently #363 and rising)
  12. Daisy (left charts in 1940s, 1960s and 1970s, currently #134 and rising)
  13. Vera (left charts in 1980s, returned in 2011 at #626)
  14. Margaret (left charts in 2010, returned in 2011 at #428)
  15. Edna (last charted in 1950s)
  16. Gladys (last charted in 1950s)
  17. Florence (left charts in 1960s-1980s, early 2000s, currently #284 and rising)
  18. Doreen (last charted in 1960s)
  19. Violet (left charts 1960s-1990s, currently #72 and rising)
  20. May (left charts 1960s-1980s, currently #557 and fell in 2011)
  21. Joyce (left charts 1980s-early 2000s, returned in 2011 at #636)
  22. Phyllis (last charted in 1960s)
  23. Erica (charted almost continuously, currently #359 and rising)
  24. Olive (left charts 1960s-early 2000s, currently #136 and rising)
  25. Ivy (left charts 1970s-1990s, currently #32 and stable)
  • 14 names are currently in the charts
  • 3 names never left the charts
  • 1 name never left the Top 100
  • 3 names are currently Top 100
  • Of the 14 names currently in the charts, 12 of them are either rising or stable

BOYS

  1. John (never left Top 100, currently #77 and rising)
  2. William (never left Top 50, currently #1)
  3. George (never left Top 100, currently #57 and rising)
  4. James (never left Top 20, currently #11 and stable)
  5. Ronald (last charted early 2000s)
  6. Robert (never left charts, currently #107 and rising)
  7. Kenneth (left charts in 2010, returned in 2011 at #409)
  8. Frederick (never left charts, currently #212 and stable)
  9. Thomas (never left Top 100, currently #8 and falling)
  10. Keith (last charted in late 2000s)
  11. Eric (never left charts, currently #126 and rising)
  12. Alfred (never left charts, currently #541 and stable)
  13. Arthur (never left charts, currently #219 and rising)
  14. Charles (never left charts, currently #73 and rising)
  15. Leslie (last charted in 1990s)
  16. Dennis (left charts in 2009 and 2011)
  17. Joseph (never left Top 100, currently #43 and stable)
  18. Alan (never left charts, currently #354 and stable)
  19. Stanley (left charts 2010, returned in 2011 at #317)
  20. Ernest (last charted in 1970s)
  21. Harold (last charted in 1990s)
  22. Norman (last charted in 1980s)
  23. Reginald (last charted in 1970s)
  24. David (never left Top 100, currently #78 and rising)
  25. Francis (left charts in 2010, returned 2011 at #388)
  • 17 names are currently in the charts
  • 14 names never left the charts
  • 7 names never left the Top 100
  • 2 names never left the Top 50
  • 1 name never left the Top 20
  • 8 names currently in the Top 100
  • 4 names currently in the Top 50
  • 3 names currently in the Top 25
  • 2 names currently in the Top 10
  • Of the 17 names currently in the charts, 16 of them are either rising or stable

As you can see, when we say we adore the old-fashioned names, we’re being a bit selective, because Gladys and Ernest haven’t had much love for decades. And Edna peaked a century ago, so when does the alleged “100 year rule” kick in for her, I wonder?

On the other hand, about half of the girls names and more than two-thirds of the boys names are still in the charts, or have returned to the charts. Interestingly, nearly all of the names from 1901 which are currently in the charts are either rising or stable, so for those names which did manage to make it, they are doing pretty well for themselves.

POLL RESULTS: The dated names people most wanted revived were Winifred, Dorothy and Ernest, while not a single person voted to bring back Doreen or Dennis. 2% of respondents didn’t want any of the dated names brought back.

 

Celebrity Baby News: Dave Hughes and Holly Ife

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975682-dave-hughes-and-wife-holly-ifeComedian Dave Hughes, and his wife Holly Ife, welcomed their third child on January 22, and have named their daughter Tess Clementine. Tess Hughes was born at 5.45 am, and weighed 3.62 kg (8lb). She joins big brother Rafferty, aged 3, and sister Sadie, aged 1 (Sadie and Rafferty were featured as a celebrity sibset on the blog last year).

Dave and Holly did not pick out a name until the baby arrived, and according to Dave, Holly felt so nauseated after giving birth that every name he suggested just made her feel sick (I read this on Radio Info, who have now edited that page). Nonetheless, they seem to have done an awesome job yet again.