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Waltzing with … Augusta

15 Sunday Sep 2013

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September 17 marks the maiden voyage of the first paddle-steamer down the Murray River, in 1853. The Murray is Australia’s longest river at 2508 km long; it has its source in the Alps, meanders across the southern inland plains where it forms most of the border between Victoria and New South Wales, and ends at Lake Alexandrina in South Australia, which empties into the Southern Ocean near Goolwa.

Europeans first discovered the Murray in 1824, and Captain Charles Sturt became the first explorer to follow the river’s course down to Lake Alexandrina, in 1828-29. In 1851, the South Australian government offered 2000 pounds reward to the first steamship to reach the junction of the Murray and Darling Rivers, at Wentworth.

The Scottish explorer Francis Cadell, who had already navigated part of the Amazon and sailed to China and Singapore by this time, heard about the reward in 1852. Nobody had claimed the money yet, and Cadell was determined to give it a shot. He had a steamer built in Sydney, and during its construction, did a test run on the Murray in a canvas boat.

Just to make things more exciting, a British-born Australian named William Randell who had lived near the Murray River also threw his hat in the ring. He built his own steamboat in 1852, even though he had no experience in boat construction, and had never seen a paddle-steamer before. He was the first person to actually put a steamboat in the river. Randell didn’t even know about the reward until later – it was a personal goal.

Cadell had much greater flair for public relations. While Randell named his craft Mary Ann after his mother, Cadell cannily called his the Lady Augusta, in honour of the South Australian governor’s wife, Lady Augusta Sophia Young (the town of Port Augusta in South Australia is also named after this lady). On the Lady Augusta‘s maiden voyage, Cadell took as his passengers the governor and his wife, members of the Legislative Council, and a journalist to give him a good write-up.

Cadell set out from Goolwa on August 25 1853. For most of the way he and Randell were neck-and-neck; however, on September 17, the Lady Augusta arrived in Swan Hill a few hours before the Mary Ann.

Swan Hill is 1000 miles from the sea, and although they were still ages from Wentworth, the governor decided the contest was over, and Cadell had won. He was deemed the first person to successfully navigate the Murray River in a practicable steamboat, and the governor arranged for gold medals to be awarded to Cadell, the Legislative Council, and himself. He then gave Cadell another 2000 pounds to build another boat.

William Randell kept going, and although he didn’t reach Wentworth either, he went further than Cadell. Due to a general feeling that Randell had been treated unjustly, he was given 300 pounds, and then another 400 when public sentiment continued to mutter about it. In fact neither Cadell or Randell had fulfilled the requirements of the contest, and this must surely rank as one of the unfairest competitions of all time.

Both Francis Cadell and William Randell attracted investors and went into business running steamships on the Murray, and because of their efforts, the Murray was opened up as an avenue of transportation. Perhaps it doesn’t really matter that Francis Cadell was the first official steamboat navigator of the Murray River in the Lady Augusta. I still think it stinks though.

Augusta is the feminine form of Augustus, from the Latin for “great, venerable, majestic”. Just as Augustus was used as a title by the Roman emperors, Augusta was a title bestowed upon some women attached to the imperial families of Rome and the Greek dynasties. It was the highest honour that could be conferred, signalling not only power, but a goddess-like status – indeed, many goddesses were given the title of Augusta.

The first woman to receive the title was Livia Drusilla, the widow of the Emperor Augustus, who became known as Julia Augusta. By all accounts she was very proud and regal, with a commanding personality. She had a lot of political influence, and enjoyed wielding power and being showered with honours. She was a direct ancestor of a dynasty of emperors, including Tiberius (her son), Caligula, Claudius and Nero.

The name Augusta was introduced to Britain in the 18th century through the Hanoverian rulers. George III gave the name Augusta to his sixth child and second daughter, Augusta Sophia. The town of Augusta on Western Australia’s south-west coast is named after her, and I fancy that Lady Augusta might have been too. Princess Augusta was named after her grandmother, Princess Augusta of Saxe-Gotha – Augusta, Georgia, in the United States, which hosts The Masters golf tournament, is named after her.

Augusta has been a traditional name in the British royal family, and was common amongst the aristocracy. However, we often think of it as a comically “difficult” old lady name. Oscar Wilde may have begun it, in his comedy, The Importance of Being Earnest, where Lady Bracknell is the main characters’ haughty Aunt Augusta.

Growing up, it seemed that every second children’s book had an Aunt Augusta in it, who would be crabby, or eccentric, or snooty, or fun-suppressing. The name almost seemed to be code for such an aunt, in the same way you would expect a fictional lab assistant named Igor to be hunch-backed and attached to a mad scientist. J.K. Rowling followed this English kidlit tradition by giving Neville Longbottom a dominating, hard-to-please grandma named Augusta.

And before I could even read anything much, life followed (or preceded?) art by giving me a Great Aunt Augusta who, in true literary fashion, was stern and austere, hated noise, mess and light, thought that children should be neither seen or heard, and scared the stuffing out of me when I was four.

For ages it didn’t seem possible to me that you could name a baby Augusta; it didn’t seem so much an “old lady name” as an “old bag name”. But Augusta was once an elegant young lady’s name, and could be again. With August a stylish choice for boys and girls, and Gus a fashionable name for boys, Augusta’s chances look better than they have in a long time.

Augusta isn’t the right choice for me as a family name, but maybe it is for you. Maybe your Great-Aunt Augusta was warm and loving and made you cinnamon buns, or cool and funny and gave you rides on her motorbike, you lucky punk. Point is, it could be the perfect name for someone else.

Augusta is a rare vintage name which still seems patrician and dignified, but comes with spunky nicknames Gus and Gussie, and the quirky Augie and Oggy. It would also make a sensational middle name. I don’t think Augusta’s everyone cup of tea and biscuit, but I imagine those who are drawn to it would be passionate supporters. You can’t fall halfheartedly in love with Augusta – she’s too strong for that.

Name Combinations for Augusta

Augusta Caroline, Augusta Geraldine, Augusta Harriet, Augusta Florence, Augusta Mabel, Augusta Ottilie

Brothers for Augusta

Charles, Ernest, Frederick, Henry, Leopold, Octavius

Sisters for Augusta

Beatrice, Cecilia, Elizabeth, Georgiana, Helena, Victoria

Note: The name combinations are from Australian historical records, while the siblings are from the British royal family.

POLL RESULT: Augusta received an approval rating of 77%. 29% of people loved the name, and a further 29% liked it.

(Photo is of the Lady Augusta on the Murray River; image from the State Library of South Australia)

Rafferty and Rufus

13 Friday Sep 2013

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Girls

Ameera Neelma

Daisy Louise Aroha

Elvy Joan

Everly Doris

Julia Susan Klara (James)

Luna Mabel

Margaret Bo

Nyla Jane

Pippa Maeve

Sawyer Jewell (Emerson)

 

Boys

Bejay Bernard Charles (Maddison)

Benjamin Laurence Henty (Tom)

Billy Jed (Lily, Jesse)

Eden John

Fergus Henry

Harley Zeke (Baily, Elijah)

Jimmy Stuart

Koda Vann (Archie, Ollie)

Rafferty William Alexander (Emilia)

Rufus George Sinclair (Alexander)

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Madison

Boys: Dylan

(Picture shows white kangaroos in the spring at Bordertown Wildlife Park in South Australia)

Aisha and Zain

06 Friday Sep 2013

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Twins

Eloise Charlette and Melaina Jade

Pixie Anne and Rose Ivy

Rupert and Maisie

 

Girls

Aisha McKenzie (Koby, Kai)

Alora Dae

Blair Margaret Rose (Kirra, Sunny)

Hera Sunim

Indiana Jeffrey

Kahzali Jane

Layce Melinda Ellen

Leticia Ivy

Luca Ingrid (Will)

Madeleine Susanna (Alexandra, Isabelle)

Merindah Poppy

Nellie Anabel (Lily, Charlie)

Piper Diaz

Ruby Vienna (Harrison, Grace)

Violette Raine (Cailen)

 

Boys

Chance Brooklyn

Edan Thomas (Sara)

Griffin Leigh

Harrison Jardine

Jenson Frank (Ashleigh, Jessica, Jackson)

Jude Henley (Finn)

Lenny George (Hannah, Ben, Josh, Jack)

Mannix Lloyd (Indi, Pepper)

Merrick Lennox Jaybe (Jordan, Tori, Phoenix, Nayte, Jayda)

Orlando Carmine (Charlize)

Reed Werner

Tom Calder (Sam, Lilli, Violet)

Walter Joseph “Wally” (Alexandra, Ava)

Zain Israr

Zenith-Daniel

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Lucy

Boys: William

(Picture shows six-year-old Sulaima with her family and friends, gathering in Melbourne for an interfaith Eid-ul-Fitr festival dinner to mark the end of Ramadan last month; photo from the Bayside Leader)

Orly and Crixus

30 Friday Aug 2013

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Twins

Matthew Horace and Laura Gwyneth

Patrick David and Luis Alberto (Andrea)

Zahra Alison and Madinah Kishwar

 

Girls

Anastasia Juliet (Annabelle)

Annabelle Daphne

Briar Lily

Crystal Angel (Angel)

Frances Eleanor (Harriet)

Freyja Margaret (Luana, Bethanie)

Greta Harriet May (Isaac, Eve)

Harlow Nikeea-Clair

Lesi’eli Palu

Lollie Erica (Max, Harry)

Lucy May June

Luna Maree

Mayumi Liliana

Mirridhi Kandelka

Nevada Monica

Orly Alice

Rubi Anjali

Scarlett Marina

Tara Sinead (Erin, Sean Patrick, Megan, Liam, Keira, Ronan)

Vanita Letizia (Marco, Sierra-Rose)

Verity Grace

 

Boys

Ambrose John (Xavier, Fabian, Lucia)

Andronicus

Austin Jet

Axel Mark

Baxter Myles

Crixus Maxwell

Digby Peter

Flynn Nimrod (Tia, Indi)

Francis Ian “Frankie” (Spencer, Ned)

Larry Alan

Lennox Soul (Rhys)

Maverick Bayden

Parker Madden (MacKenzie)

Preston Drake

Rossi Ronald Bruce (Brayden, Connor, Jet)

Ryder Manix

Sandy Keith (Brooklyn)

Tarik Geoffrey

Tasman Jay

Thomas Ridley

Zen Maurice Donald

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Ruby

Boys: Thomas

(Picture shows surfing with dolphins during winter in Newcastle, New South Wales)

Aengus and Cormac

23 Friday Aug 2013

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Girls

Annika Bridget

Davina Uga

Dusty Kaye

Elektra Seraphina “Ellie”

Harriet Millicent

Isabel Valkyrie

Jameson Amie

Jemima Dundas (Claudia, Nora)

Maddox Lee (Ava)

Margot Silvia Guinevere (Adelaide)

Neve Courtney

Rosalie Pearl (Charlotte, Isabella)

Sass Winnie (Lucia, Ari, Pippen)

Temperance Sienna Indigo (Ryan-Jay, Memphis)

Winter Laine (Sullivan)

 

Boys

Alonso Gennaro

Aengus Maeleachlainn

Cooper Gary

Cormac Gabriel (Susanna)

Davide Alfredo John (Amelia)

Isaac Wailin

Oscar Craig Tiger

Rafi Kahuna

Raymond Rui Cao (Jacqueline)

Reeve Madsen (Chaye)

River James (Freya, Luca)

Sandy Thomas Frankland (Jack, Charlie)

Ward Clancey (Jay, Reid)

Zak Frangos (Max, Mia)

Ziggy Von

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Charlotte

Boys: Thomas

(Picture shows Tannar Ware of Waratah building a snowman during a recent cold snap in Tasmania; photo from the Hobart Mercury)

Dahlia and Huckleberry

16 Friday Aug 2013

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Twins

Alessio James and Sebastian Rocco

Billy Maurice and Aubrey Harriet (Maximilian)

 

Girls

Dahlia Pearle

Delina Meaza (Wintana)

Devi Taylor (Olive)

Gemima Xanthe (Molly, Emmeline, Jessica)

Jamieson Diane

Lyra Olive

Maeve Willow

Quincy Annie (Piper, Aden, Sabine)

Scarlett Assunta

Willa Florence

Zali Olwen (Lucia)

Zia Clare

 

Boys

Cian Patrick (Sinead)

Cole Emerson

Finnian Philip (Luca)

Huckleberry Barnaby Archie

Jamie Neil

Jasper Harland Arthur

Lachlan Ivo

Leo Emanuel (Zak, Tayla, Sienna)

Paxton Ky (Mason, Remmy)

Reg Owen (Edie, Connie)

Rinan (Sol, Imogene, Gabe)

Xavier Kingston

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Isla

Boys: Jack

(Picture shows a winter morning on Lake Wendouree, Victoria; photo from ABC Open)

Waltzing with … Benedict

11 Sunday Aug 2013

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On Thursday August 15, it will be Victory in the Pacific Day, which commemorates the day that Japan surrendered in 1945, effectively ending World War II. In Australia, Labor leader and Prime Minister Ben Chifley announced the news in a radio broadcast at 9.30 am on Wednesday August 15 1945, with the words, Fellow citizens, the War is over. Australian cities and towns erupted into spontaneous celebration, and by evening, the jubilant crowds were the largest to have ever gathered in the nation’s history.

One of Australia’s iconic images from history is the “dancing man” who was filmed by MovieTone News dancing happily in Elizabeth Street in Sydney on August 15 1945. Several men have claimed to be the Dancing Man, and the image remains an enduring symbol of the nation’s joy that the war was over at last. A well-attended church service of thanksgiving was held in the Domain that afternoon, and with the next two days declared holidays, there were Victory parades all over the country.

When Ben Chifley announced the war was over, he had only been Prime Minister for a month. He led Australia into the post-war era, with the promise of “sane and progressive government” and was successful in moving us to a peace-time economy. Servicemen and women were eased back into civilian life, and public works such as the Snowy Mountains Hydro-electricity Scheme meant that unemployment was virtually nil. This demand for labour opened the door for assisted migration schemes, which were to change Australia forever.

Chifley brought in many welfare initiatives, including unemployment benefits, sickness benefits, fairer pensions and, against a legal challenge by doctors, what was to become the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme, which subsidises the cost of essential medicines. His promises to improve equality in wealth, income and opportunities came to fruition during the prosperity of the 1950s and ’60s.

Ben’s full name was Joseph Benedict Chifley, and his second name was suggested by the Mother Superior of Saint Benedict’s Convent in Queanbeyan, where his mother Mary had worked as a servant. He grew up in a Catholic community, but defied the papal decree that Catholics could not marry outside their religion when he wed Elizabeth McKenzie, a Presbyterian. Although he continued attending mass, he considered himself to be outside the Catholic church, and labour politics became his true religion – one which he followed with an evangelical zeal.

He is most famous for his “Light on the Hill” speech, which he gave at a Labor conference in 1949, towards the end of his term as Prime Minister (and not long before his life ended). He spoke of the many people in the labour movement, including himself, who worked not for personal gain, but in order to bring better conditions for others.

He said: I try to think of the Labor movement … as a movement bringing something better to the people, better standards of living, greater happiness to the mass of people. We have a great objective – the light on the hill – which we aim to reach by working for the betterment of mankind.

For his idealism, his humanity, and his vision, Ben Chifley is counted amongst the nation’s greatest Prime Ministers. So much of the Australia we know today began with Chifley’s aspirations for a future he would never live to see.

Benedict is derived from the Latin name Benedictus, meaning “blessed”. It was a name commonly chosen by Christians for its meaning, and there are several saints named Benedictus or Benedict.

The most famous of these is Benedict of Nursia, a 6th century saint, who, according to tradition, was the son of a Roman noble. While still a very young man, he turned away from the pleasures of the world and became a hermit in a cave in the Subiaco region. He attracted many disciples, and eventually founded the famous monastery of Monte Cassino, which is in the mountains halfway between Rome and Naples.

Near the end of his life, he wrote his Rule of Benedict, which lays down the precepts for the organisation of communities of monks under an abbot. Compared to other works of this nature, Benedict’s is notable for its moderation and practicality, which made it very popular. He wrote a Monasteries for Beginners, and (unlike more zealous Rules which barely allow food or sleep), his Rule is possible for anyone to follow.

Benedict’s Rule has been used for 1500 years; the foundational document for thousands of religious communities in the Middle Ages, it is still in use today, and is the most common Rule used by monastries and monks. As the father of Western monasticism, Benedict’s importance to history can hardly be overstated. During the early medieval period, monasteries became respositories for learning, and centres of education. Because of Benedict’s influence, when the Middle Ages ended, there was enough knowledge retained to build on for the future.

Due to Saint Benedict of Nursia’s importance, many others entering the religious life (especially Benedictines) chose Benedict as their name, and it has been a favourite choice for popes. There have been sixteen Pope Benedicts, the most recent being the current Roman Pontiff Emeritus, Benedict XVI, who chose his papal name in honour of Benedict of Nursia, and of Pope Benedict XV, who had worked for peace during the First World War.

Pope Benedict said in one of his early sermons that with his life and work, Saint Benedict exercised a fundamental influence on the development of European civilisation and culture, and helped Europe emerge from “the dark night of history” that followed the fall of the Roman empire. For his role of preserving European culture, Saint Benedict was named patron protector of Europe by Pope Paul VI in 1964.

Benedict has never charted in Australia, so if you would like a rare name with a positive meaning that can mingle with the crowds as simple Ben, then Benedict seems like a good choice. It’s weighty and dignified, and honours one of the great Prime Ministers, who changed Australia, as well as a saint who changed western civilisation. It’s a name heavy with significance and history, yet actor Benedict Samuel reminds us how well this name can suit a young person.

Name Combinations for Benedict

Benedict Alexander, Benedict Jude, Benedict Leonard, Benedict Nathaniel, Benedict Sebastian, Benedict Vincent

Brothers for Benedict

Constantine, Dominic, Felix, Gabriel, Ignatius, Xavier

Sisters for Benedict

Agnes, Caroline, Eloise, Genevieve, Lucia, Margaret

POLL RESULT: Benedict received an approval rating of 80%. 33% of people liked it, and 27% of people loved it.

Is August a Boy’s Name, or the Name of a Month?

10 Saturday Aug 2013

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Olivia and Dale are from New Zealand, and they are expecting their third child towards the end of the year. Their son is named Innes, and their daughter is Abigail, and they have a fairly common surname beginning with C and ending with N eg Charlton.

Olivia likes male names which are generally softer in sound, such as Henry, Abel, Arlo, Eli, Miller and Soren, but Dale has vetoed all these ideas.

Dale, who is of Swedish heritage, would prefer a Scandinavian-style name, and only likes three names for a boy: Lachlan, Stellan, and August. Although Olivia likes Lachlan, she feels that it is too popular for their common surname, and Stellan is the cat’s name.

By elimination, that leaves August as their front-runner, but they have had mixed reactions when they have asked for people’s opinions. Some love it, while to others, August is a month, not a boy’s name. The Charltons live in an area where boys tend to have unspectacular names, and Olivia wonders whether August is too far out.

The middle names they are thinking of using are Leander and James. Leander has special significance for them, because Olivia and Dale were both in the navy, and met on a Leander class frigate. Olivia suggested Leander as the first name, but Dale vetoed it. James is a family name, but it was mostly chosen because it flows well with Leander.

Olivia wants to know whether August Leander James C_____n works as a name, and if there are any other soft-sounding Scandinavian-style boy’s names they might like.

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You’ve already discovered that some people love the name August, and I guess you can add one more, because I adore August. I think it’s handsome and stylish, and it seems perfect for you. It honours Dale’s Swedish heritage, it’s a softer boy’s name, and you get fashionable nicknames from it like Gus and Augie. It sounds fantastic with the middle names you’ve chosen, and I would count August Leander James as one of the nicest boy’s names I’ve heard recently.

It may not sound like the boy’s names in your area, but our childrens’ names don’t have to fit in with the neighbours. It would be foolish to make them so when you could relocate later, new people could move to your area, and your son is unlikely to live in the same place for his entire life – and even if he did, the demographics of the area would change over time.

I suspect this isn’t really a huge concern for you, since Innes isn’t exactly a run of the mill name either, and I’m sure everyone around you has coped with it. I think Innes and August are really well-suited as brothers, by the way.

You’ve had some mixed reactions to the name August, but it doesn’t sound as if the mixture is people who love it and people who hate it – it seems more as if people either love it, or it confuses them. They hear August, and think, But August is a month … I know you can call girls April or May, but can you call boys after a month? And why is his name going to be August when he’s due late in the year?

If people seem a bit taken aback or confused when you tell them your son is named August, I would just briefly explain that it is the Scandinavian form of Augustus, and that Dale has Swedish heritage. And if they still seem a bit hesitant, maybe you could mention a famous August, so they have something concrete to attach to the name.

I would pick whatever August you think people you know would most readily connect to. So – August, like the Swedish playwright August Strindberg, or August, like Nicolas Cage’s dad, or August, like in that film “August Rush”, or August, like August Booth from “Once Upon a Time”. Or you could mention some celebrities who have sons named August, like Mariska Hargitay and Jeanne Tripplehorn.

I think that explanation would satisfy 95% of people, and the other 5% either need more time to get used to it, or they are just stuck on August being a month, and can’t, or won’t, get past it.

Other Softish-Sounding Boys Names

  • Ari
  • Bo
  • Elias
  • Hugo
  • Lars
  • Magnus
  • Matthias
  • Oscar
  • Theo
  • Tobias

These names either have a Scandinavian origin, or are currently popular in Sweden (like August), or have a history of use there. However, I honestly prefer August to any of these names.

Olivia and Dale, you’ve plenty of time to change your minds if you come up with a name you like better, but I’m kind of hoping you don’t, because I think August is a brilliant choice. Please let us know what you decided on once your little boy arrives!

NAME UPDATE: The baby’s name is August Leander James!

POLL RESULTS: Most people (69%) said they wouldn’t assume the name August was after the month, with 22% assuming August was derived from the name Augustus, and 47% refusing to make any assumptions at all. 16% of people said they would assume August was after the month, but nearly all of them thought that would be cool. Only one person (less than 1%) thought August was an odd name because of the month.

The name August Leander James received an overwhelmingly positive response, with 81% of people giving it a thumbs up. 55% thought it was a fantastic choice, while 26% said it was nicely put together. Not one person thought there was something seriously wrong with it.

Barney Joe and Billy Soul

09 Friday Aug 2013

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Twins

Abel Henry and Winslow Jack (Jimmy)

Tiffany and Rubi

 

Girls

Ada Lucy (Meelan)

Agnieszka Joanna

Anastasia Katerina Manira

Allira Storm

Athena Dawn

Betsy Emilie (Phoebe, Felix, Gertie, Fergus, Freddie)

Brielle Scarlett (Nathaniel, Tarquin)

Daisy Susanna (Angus)

Imogen Jean Agnes (Angus)

Ireland Wendy (Bailey)

Katherine Evelyn Olive (Isobella)

May Judith Linda (Noah, Archie)

Mila Carmela

Nevaya Lily (Tobi, Tyler)

Tamika Pauline Gladys

 

Boys

Archer James Greville (Coco)

Barney Joe

Billy Soul (Zoe, Caleb)

Emmett David

Hugo Max (Hamish, Lenny)

Jenson James (Emilia)

Jim Samuel (Esther, Billie)

Koby Zave Bolt (Jed)

Layken Leslie (Braxton)

Luca Lorenzo

Madin Djuke (Milla)

Percy George (Minnie, Max)

Robert Lauchlan (Samantha, Michelle)

Santiago Thomas Lindsay

Tadhg Sean (Frankie)

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Mia

Boys: Patrick and Riley

(Picture shows motorcyclist practicing at Campbell Park Motocross Track in Palmerston, near Darwin in the Northern Territory; photo from NT News)

A Sibling Name for Harper

03 Saturday Aug 2013

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Carissa and Nick Taylor are expecting their second child towards the end of the year, and they have a daughter named Harper Joy – Harper’s middle name is a family name.

If Harper had been a boy, the name they had picked out was Jensen, so that seemed an obvious choice for a boy’s name. However, they seem to be gradually losing interest in Jensen, and are now thinking of Carson instead. The only thing that bothers Carissa is that she wonders if Carson is too close in sound to her own name. The middle name for a boy will be Carissa’s maiden name, Fero.

They are having real problems deciding on a girl name that will match Harper. They love Avery, but dislike the idea of Ava as the nickname, and Carissa is concerned that the name will always remind her of Avery the stationery company.

They also love Quinn, but when they try to match it with a feminine middle name, it sounds too much like Queen ____. For example, Quinn Mary = Queen Mary. If they go with a more unisex middle name, it sounds “too American” to them. The middle names they are likely to use for a girl are Grace, May or Poppy (family names).

The Taylors don’t have any problems with popular names, but nothing in the Top 100 happens to appeal to them – except Willow, which isn’t possible for them to use for personal reasons.

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I get the feeling that Jensen is slipping away from you – part of the reason is probably that you think of it as Harper’s-name-if-she-had-been-a-boy, so it’s now hard for you to get enthusiastic about it on a new baby.

To me, Carson and Carissa sound similar, but not too similar, but I think this is something you have to decide for yourself. It might be a good idea to have Nick call out “Carson!” and then call out “Carissa!” and see if you can easily tell which one is your name from a distance (say, out in the back yard).

There’s nothing like road-testing a name for a week, so start using the name Carson in sentences all the time and see if it feels right to you. Talk to each other about Carson – “Carson came top of his class in maths this term; I think that extra tutoring is really helping” or “Carson has this weird rash on his left ankle. If I take him to the doctor, will they think I’m over-reacting?”.

Talk to Carson as if he’s there and already been part of your family for years. Call him to dinner, tell him to take those muddy football boots outside, talk to him about the family holiday you’re planning, ask him what colour he’d like his room to be painted. Does Carson sound like a name you can imagine saying for a lifetime? Is it a name that feels like it fits into your family? Can you imagine saying, “These are my children, Harper and Carson”?

You asked whether Jensen or Carson was more popular: Jensen is #149 in Victoria, and Carson doesn’t chart at all in Australia, although it is a Top 100 name in the US. I see Jensen fairly often in birth notices, but I can only remember seeing Carson a couple of times – once as a girl’s middle name. If popularity is a factor for you, then Carson is definitely the less common name.

Name for a Girl

If you had asked me to pick a sister for Harper, with no other information given, my top two suggestions would have been Avery and Quinn, so I think you have two excellent choices there.

Avery

It never occurred to me until you wrote it that Ava could be a nickname for Avery. While it’s hard to control what nicknames people will bestow on your child, I do feel as if Ava is the type of nickname which is not likely to take off if the parents don’t approve of it and give it their blessing. If I knew a little girl called Avery, and her mum and dad always referred to her as Ava, then I might call her that too, but I’d never think of just deciding to call her Ava on my own – maybe because I’d figure that if they’d wanted the name Ava, they would have chosen it in the first place.

As far as the stationery company goes, how often do you come across Avery? Do you have to use their products every day at work, or is it more that you’ll sometimes buy a box of labels for your Christmas cards? If you love the name Avery, I really don’t think you’ll be reminded of the stationery company once your baby girl arrives – Avery will be your daughter, and that will be it. Stationery isn’t a horrible association, and buying from Avery might even give you a bit of a buzz – seeing her name on a box of labels will probably be a thrill for a little girl named Avery anyway.

While Avery Grace or Avery May sounds nice, I think your own middle name would be lovely with Avery – Avery Elizabeth. If you were willing to share it, I think that one’s a winner.

Quinn

I see what you mean about the middle name issue with Quinn, which does make it slightly trickier for a girl’s name. I see girls named Quinn quite often in birth announcements, and what I’ve noticed is that they tend to be paired with a fairly modern or slightly gender-ambiguous middle name. Some from the blog are Quinn Eden, Quinn Gracyn, Quinn Cedar, and Quinn Brielle. I don’t think these sound “too American” – they just sound modern.

I don’t think Quinn sounds awful with any of the middle names on your list, but I wonder whether you might prefer it with a nature name eg Quinn Aspen, Quinn Autumn, Quinn Maple, Quinn Meadow, Quinn Saffron, Quinn Winter? To me, that solves the problem of Quinn + Girl Name, but at the same time, nearly everyone would recognise Quinn Meadow as a female name. It also fits in with Harper, who has a vocabulary word as her middle name.

If your heart is set on a family name, I like Quinn Poppy best, as it’s a nature name. You might also want to separate the names with another middle name, such as Quinn Winter Poppy.

Other Unisex Names for Girls

  • Arden
  • Ariel
  • Aubrey
  • Emerson
  • Fallon
  • Frankie
  • Marley
  • Morgan
  • Peyton
  • Remy

These names are all unisex, but more common on girls (like Avery), or fairly equally given to boys and girls (like Quinn). The one which appeals to me most is Arden, but I admit that might make a boy named Carson seem less usable down the track.

Well I hope that’s given you some food for thought. You’re still quite a way from your due date, so feel free to write in again as more ideas come to you!

NAME UPDATE: The baby was a boy, and his name is Jensen!

(Picture shows a vintage card with a female harpist)

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