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Rayne and Sunny

17 Friday May 2013

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1b67a634-3ad1-4ea1-94fd-4a9c134db662Twins

Tiger Lily and Jarrah (girl/boy)

 

Girls

Charlotte Sigrid

Claudia Rochelle

Eleanor June

Indi Coco (Nell, Monty)

Lucy Ethel

Neve Simone (Matilda, Juliet)

Olivia Sunday

Rayne Alexandra

Sunny Martha

Thea Margaret (Hamish)

 

Boys

Baxter Eric-Heinz (Zack, Logan, Carter, Finley)

Bede Cornelius

Cash Grant (Scarlett)

Eeli Shane Onni

Fionn Dara (Mali)

Jago Leigh

Jethro Henri (Isaac)

Joaquin Frederick Casey

Koa Osmond

Tom Yani (Luka)

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Charlotte

Boys: Jack and Thomas

(Photo shows storm clouds gathering over Thunder Point on the Victorian coast this week)

Is the Name Wren Strictly for the Birds?

11 Saturday May 2013

Posted by A.O. in Naming Assistance

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Country Diary : Wren in frosted bramble bushHannah and James live in the United States, and they are expecting their third son in about a month’s time. He will be a younger brother to William and Griffin, and his middle name will be Michael, which is a family name. Hannah and James’ surname begins with M and ends with L eg Maxwell.

Hannah and James’ Name List

  • Wren – they really like this name, but worry it may be too different or perceived as feminine, although everything they’ve read said it is a boy’s name
  • Crosby – they keep changing their minds on this one, and going back and forth
  • Cannon
  • Gates
  • Henry
  • Oliver
  • River

Less Usable

  • Kenson – a family name, but James isn’t thrilled by it
  • Miller – love it, but Miller Michael Maxwell is just a little too much

Hannah and James want a name which sounds good with William and Griffin and doesn’t start with M. They like classic and original names, and don’t want anything trendy or with variant spelling. They aren’t concerned about popularity if the name is a classic.

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I have a disclaimer on my site saying if you’re from overseas I may not have a good grasp of name trends from your country, and some of the names on your name list are ones which are not often used in Australia, or even recognised as first names. However, I also promised to do my best, in the very Australian tradition of “having a go”.

YOUR NAME LIST

Wren

I’m sure this is a unisex name rather than a boy’s name, and according to the 2012 data from the US, it’s more commonly given to girls in America – 263 girls were called Wren or Wrenn, compared to 29 boys. That suggests that many people probably would perceive it as feminine, and it rose for girls and sank slightly for boys last year, so it’s becoming increasingly feminine by usage.

I really like this name as well (for either sex), but I don’t happen to love it for you. To me it sounds slightly odd with your surname, and is rather a clash with William and Griffin, especially Griffin. Both griffins and wrens are winged creatures, but of such wildly different types that they seem strange as a sibset – like two sisters named Lotus and Thistle.

Crosby

This name has recently joined the US Top 1000 and rose 77 places last year. It’s known from a character on popular TV show, Parenthood. I quite like it; I think it goes well with William and Griffin while sounding quite distinctive. However, you did say you didn’t want a trendy name, and a name that’s suddenly jumped onto the Top 1000 after appearing in a TV show and then risen almost a hundred places does seem pretty trendy to me. Maybe this is the reason why you keep changing your minds?

Cannon

This name is around the #500 mark on the US popularity charts. According to Nameberry, this is also a trendy name, as it had a big jump in popularity after Larry King chose this for his son. Although it didn’t rise last year, you might want to be careful with this one too.

Gates

This name is very rare in the US, given to just 10 boys last year, but it is on trend (not trendy) in the American South. I must say, a William and a Gates in one family seems like some weird tribute to Microsoft.

Henry

I think this name is great – a handsome classic name which goes perfectly with William and Griffin, and sounds awesome with your surname. I don’t know if this is an issue for you, but Prince William and Prince Henry of England are famous brothers with these names. At least this sibset has been royally road-tested.

Oliver

A fantastic choice – perfect match with surname, middle name and siblings, and very stylish, while still having that down-to-earth feel that William and Griffin do. I’d be hard-pressed to pick between Henry and Oliver, they both seem exactly right.

River

Like Wren, this is another unisex nature name, and it seems like a better fit for your family. I think it’s really handsome, and would make an excellent choice.

OTHER NAMES YOU MIGHT LIKE

Alexander

A classic like Henry and Oliver which is in the Top 10 like William and with Greek connotations like Griffin. This seems like a great match with both brothers.

Beck

This short simple nature name reminds me of Wren, and means “brook”, which is rather like River. According to US data, it is underused, and only given to boys.

Corbin

It means “raven”, so it’s another bird-related name, like Wren, but this is a very old name that’s almost entirely masculine. I like how it sounds with your two boys.

Frederick

Another classic name, but this one is in the lower half of the Top 1000. It has Henry’s royal background, but something of Oliver’s European style.

Gage

This surname name has a vaguely military feel, like Cannon, and sounds similar to Gates. I think it seems very cool and masculine with your surname.

Oscar

This has the slight “growly” sound of Crosby, and like Crosby, it goes well with William and Griffin while allowing each name to seem quite distinct from each other.

Rowan

A unisex nature name which sounds a bit like Wren, with a similar level of popularity to River. I like it with William and Griffin.

This blog consultation took me right out of my comfort zone, and I’m not sure if I was able to give you any real help, because of my deep unfamiliarity with some American-style names. However, from your list, my choices would be Henry, Oliver and River, and from my suggestions, I confess to finding Beck very appealing and usable.

Please write back in if you need more help with narrowing down your name list, and remember to let us know what name you eventually choose.

Note on the title: For the uninitiated, bird is British slang for woman

NOTE: The baby’s name was Henry Michael!

POLL RESULTS: Almost half of respondents voted for Wren being a girl’s name, with Oliver being the preferred name choice, gaining more than 20% of the vote. Henry came a very close second.

(Photo of wren from The Guardian)

Zax and Zephyr

10 Friday May 2013

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Twins

William Alexander and Adele Stefani

 

Girls

Audrey Kathleen (Stella)

Eleanor Rose

Ellen Lyn (Noemi, Liam)

Eloise Blanche

Farrah Elizabeth (Ariana)

Florence Elspeth

Gisella Patricia

Gwenyth Ernest

Heidi Valda

Lianna Maria

Marcella Elizabeth

Nyah Sylvi Amae

River Kaylee (Elijah)

Ruby Rose (Scarlett)

Ruthie Jean

 

Boys

Benjamin Salem (Daniel, Evelyn)

Douglas Lloyd “Dougie” (Zara, Polly)

Ernest Adam

Jet Romeo (Tyson, Cooper)

Kellan Joel (Ashlyn)

Maddox Julian

Marlow Jett

Oisin Thomas George (Aoife)

Preston Reid

Sebastian Roderick Lynn (Stella)

Sonny Broer

Tao Blake Logan

Tommy Azza (Ruby, Ebi)

Zax Aden

Zephyr David (Allora)

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Sophie

Boys: Noah, Oscar and William

(Photo shows a galah flying over the Clare Valley in South Australia)

Will Sadie Always Be a Cleaning Lady?

04 Saturday May 2013

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vintage-cleaningSamantha and Conall are expecting a baby in a couple of months, and if it’s a boy, he will be named Liam, which is a family name. Girls names are still not settled, as each name they like seems to have a few issues, but the middle name will be Patricia, which honours several relatives. Samantha and Connall have a surname starting with L and ending with R eg Lalor.

Their Short List

  • Sadie – Samantha loves this name to bits, but every time she mentions it to someone they bring up the song, Sadie the Cleaning Lady.
  • Eliza – Samantha also loves this name, but worries that Eliza Lalor doesn’t sound right. They are considering the name Elizabeth (a family name), but calling her Eliza.
  • Niamh – Samantha likes this name a lot, but worries that it is too Irish, and wonders whether spelling and pronunciation will prove troublesome.
  • Annie – Samantha thinks this name sounds almost too sweet.

Other Names That Seem Less Usable

  • Amity, Annabelle, April and Bonnie – Conall doesn’t seem so keen on these
  • Rose – a favourite name which has just been used by a close friend

Samantha would like to know what people think of their name list, and if there are any other names they might like they haven’t considered. The name has to fit their surname, suit the middle name Patricia, and not clash with Liam should they have a boy later. In general, Samantha doesn’t really like most of the girls names in the Australian Top 50.

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Your Name List

Sadie

Sadie is a very hip name at the moment, and you’re probably slightly ahead of the crowd on this one. If it’s any comfort, your daughter’s peers won’t know of the song, so it’s definitely not playground teasing material.

Eliza

I don’t think Eliza Lalor sounds horrible, but I agree it doesn’t seem quite right.  Elizabeth Lalor is lovely, but if you call her Eliza anyway, I’m not sure it really solves anything. Wouldn’t she still essentially be Eliza Lalor?

Niamh

This is a really gorgeous Irish name, and I don’t think there would be too many problems with spelling and pronunciation, although you probably would need to explain it sometimes. Niamh is reasonably well known and used in Australia – more than it is in Ireland at present, I believe.

Annie

You’re right, Annie is adorably sweet with your surname, although the name Annie is practical and homespun. I really like it, but saying it’s “too sweet” almost seems as if you’re looking for reasons to cross it off.

Other Names You Might Like

Zadie

This is an option to replace Sadie if you really can’t get over the “cleaning lady” association. Zadie had her heyday in the 19th century, and is probably most familiar from the writer Zadie Smith.

Maisie

Has something of the sound of Sadie and the feel of Annie. It’s not as hip as Sadie though.

Elsie

This short form of Elizabeth has a similar retro feel to Sadie and Annie.

Maeve

If you wanted an Irish name with a fashionable V sound but without the spelling/pronunciation issues, Maeve is generally well known now. Of course, that suggests that Niamh will be better understood in time too.

Nora

Has an Irish history, minimal spelling/pronunciation issues, and is hip and retro like Sadie.

Annabeth

This gives you a name that incorporates Elizabeth, but can still have Annie as a nickname. I think it’s pretty, and seems sweet and sophisticated at the same time.

Felicity

This is a virtue name like Amity with the elegance of Annabelle.

Hazel

A pretty nature name like Rose that sounds a bit like Sadie and Eliza. Like Rose, this is rising in popularity.

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It seems as if Sadie is easily your first choice. With the other three names on your list, the doubts you have about them are your own doubts – with Sadie, I wonder if your mind would already be made up without comments from other people.

It’s okay to change your mind about a name; it’s not cool to have your mind changed for you (except by your partner). Almost any interesting name is going to have some issue attached to it: if you want a controversy-free baby name that nearly everyone approves of, pick a name that’s in the Top 30 and rising.

For what it’s worth, I think Sadie sounds great with your surname, suits the middle name you have chosen, and would make a cute sibset with Liam. I would think long and hard before you allow outside interference to decide what you name your baby.

Good luck Samantha, and let us know what decision you make when the time comes!

UPDATE: Samantha and Conall had a boy named Liam, but later had a girl named Sadie!

POLL RESULTS
95% of respondents were not troubled by the connection between the name Sadie and the song Sadie the Cleaning Lady

47% of people had never heard of the song
25% were reminded of the song by the name Sadie, but didn’t think it was a big deal
18% did know the song, but didn’t immediately connect the name Sadie with it
6% were only reminded a little bit of the song by the name Sadie
5% of people were reminded of the song by the name Sadie, and thought it was a big problem

There was strong support for Samantha to stick with her favourite name, with 29% of readers saying that Sadie was the name the parents should choose.

Bon and Miki

03 Friday May 2013

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62857_359614017477835_1538032998_nGirls

Alba Rae

Ariana Patricia Therese (Freya)

Beverley-Anne Jane

Camilla Josephine (Max, Charlotte, Edward)

Coco Lily (Holly, Hamish, Gracie)

Estelle Cecilia

Georgia Tess (Montana, Angus)

Grace Bellamie Anna

Henley Ruth

Isla Hillary (Greer)

Meleah Stevie

Polly Sydelle

Prue Genevieve (Elliott, Millicent)

Rahdy Laka Milan (Dakota, Jarva)

Ruth Bettina (Edith, Max)

 

Boys

Aurelio Trevor

Austin Cashel (Jensen)

Bon Alexander (Anne, Valinda, Cody)

Brencis Pauls

Cess David (Audrey, Ella, Jasmine)

Gabe Austin

Griffin Naman (Frankie)

Hamilton James (Jenson, Jordan)

Hugh Tasman (Oliver, Franklin, Henry)

Jake Neville (Jed, Jack)

Miki Sebastian

Tarquin Sean

Vincent Perry (Wyatt)

William Odin “Will” (Matilda)

Zac Yao Yang (Skye)

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Ruby

Boys: Austin

(Photo shows a scarecrow contest at the Bickley Harvest Festival in May, held in Perth’s eastern suburbs)

Waltzing with … May

28 Sunday Apr 2013

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eucalyptus-flower-bookIt will be May very soon, and whenever that month comes around, it reminds me of one of my favourite Australian authors from childhood – May Gibbs. Born in England, May grew up in Western Australia, and it was while riding her pony around the bush as a little girl that she began writing stories and drawing pictures based on the native flora.

After going to art school, she became a professional illustrator in the early twentieth century, and was most famed for her “gumnut babies” – plump little cherubs scantily dressed in gumnuts, gumblossom and gumleaves. She even produced postcards of the gumnut babies to support the war effort during WW I, and her house was called Nutcote.

Later she wrote stories to accompany her enchanting drawings, the best-known being the Snugglepot and Cuddlepie series. Adults are charmed by the stories’ sense of fun, but for small children, they are filled with adventure and excitement, and can even be frightening, due to the villains of the story, the wicked Banksia Men. Without being sickly or sentimental, the subtle message of the stories is always that we must care for each other, and for the world around us.

After growing up with May Gibbs’ picture books, it is impossible to walk through the Australian bush and not see it differently; she gave us our own fairy tales and our own mythology of nature. And because many eucalyptus trees flower in autumn (not to mention some banksia species), you can see “gumnut babies” and “banksia men” for yourself in May.

The name May appears to have begun life as a short form of names such as Mary and Margaret, but very soon was associated with the fifth month of the year.

The month of May is generally said to be named by the Romans in honour of the goddess Maia, whose name may mean “greater”. She probably didn’t have a connection to the Greek goddess Maia originally, but the two goddesses became gradually merged into one. Maia was a mother goddess, an earth goddess, and encouraged growth and abundance. May is in the spring in the northern hemisphere, so readily suggests the idea of fecundity.

The poet Ovid said that the month was named for the ancestors, also connected to the word for “greater”; I’m not sure if this was his own idea or one in wide circulation in his day. On the first of May, the Romans sacrificed both to the goddess Maia and to the ancestor spirits who were guardians of the city.

The first of May has quite a history as a day of celebration. In Ireland, it is the Celtic festival of Beltane, which marks the beginning of the summer; this is observed by Neo-Pagans around the world. Related to this is May Day, a European celebration of spring and fertility which often involves dancing around a phallic Maypole decorated in blooms, and choosing a Queen of the May, as if still honouring a spring goddess. In Catholic tradition, the month of May is sacred to the Virgin Mary and the flowering of her spirituality; a continuation of the devotion to floral mother figures.

Another floral connection is the word mayflower, which can refer to several different flowering species, but traditionally is the hawthorn, also known as may, mayblossom, may tree or may thorn. The hawthorn is one of the flowers associated with Beltane, and in Ireland you can make wishes on the maytree during this festival. It is also said that they are inhabited by fairies, especially if you see a lone hawthorn bush out in the wild. To bring us back full circle, hawthorn was sacred to the goddess Maia.

The name May was at its highest popularity in the 1900s, when it was #41 for the decade, and had left the Top 100 by the 1930s. It left the charts entirely between the 1960s and 1980s, but has remained in modest use since the 1990s. Currently it is #557 (11 births) in New South Wales and #489 (10 births) in Victoria.

I should have said in modest use as a first name, because May gets a real workout in the middle position. You can’t read through a few pages of birth notices without seeing name combinations such as Charlotte May, Emma May, Harper May, Pippa May and Zara May – not to mention double names like Gracie-May, Ella-May and Lily-May.

You might say that other names are similarly popular in the middle, such as Elizabeth, Grace and Rose – and Alice is quickly joining their ranks. However, all these names are in the Top 100 and either rising or stable, so they are clearly not being neglected as first names.

Poor May lies in the doldrums, with parents preferring Maya and Mia. Even May’s big sister Mary and anagram twin Amy are much more popular, and April is far more common as a name than the following month.

Yet there is something so simple and sweet about May; it sounds old-fashioned without being the least bit musty. If you would like an underused retro name which still seems fresh and youthful, why not consider rescuing May from the middle, and putting her front, rather than centre?

Name Combinations for May

May Amelia, May Elizabeth, May Kathleen, May Luella, May Sophia, May Victoria

Brothers for May

Charlie, George, Harry, Samuel, Tobias, William

Sisters for May

Alice, Clara, Lillian, Nettie, Rose, Sadie

POLL RESULT: May received an approval rating of 93% – just 1% behind the highest-rated girls name, Layla. 37% of people liked the name May, and 35% loved it.

Juniper Lux and Ruby Tuesday

26 Friday Apr 2013

Posted by A.O. in Birth Announcements

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Colour_City8Twins

Marco Erwin and Anton Drago (Bella, Georgia)

Stella Mary and Jock Albert

 

Girls

April Juliet (Mia, Evie, Bella)

Goldie Violet Kathleen (Oliver, Tobias, Elliot)

Harriet Maeve (Ivy)

Holly Astrid Sloan (Freya)

Ivy Genevieve

Juniper Lux

Mackinnon Maggie (Patterson “Paddy”)

Magdalena Rose (Zofia)

Ruby Tuesday

Vivian Margaret (Eleanor)

 

Boys

Brandt Bruhn (Charlie)

Carson Scott (Ryan, Curtis)

Evan Lawrence (Zoe)

Felix Benjamin (Chanelle, Calen, Josch, Sashia, Evie, Jaspa)

Gus Oscar (Elsie, Ned, Tilly)

Koby Tenzin (Taj, Maya)

Kyran Mace

Ned Thomas

Vincent Marco (Oliver, Joseph)

Wylie Robert (Mac, Jonty, Zander)

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Ava

Boys: Nate and Oscar

(Photo is a street in Orange showing the autumn colours)

Rebel and Mace

19 Friday Apr 2013

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explore-cities-alice-springs-alice-springsGirls

Ada Joyce

Ameika Sian Kaye

Astrid Catherine Amy

Billie Pearl (Tanner, Crawford)

Chanelle Chrystal Ellen

Ellamae Nellie (Honey)

Estelle Victoria

Frida Florentina

Grace Everdeen (Ella)

Isabel Beatrice (Henrietta, Mimi)

Ita Paige (Ella, Chloe)

Lulu Ho (Illy, Mimi)

Poppy Jewel (Darby)

Quinn Gracyn (Lucy)

Rebel Elizabeth (Aemon, Kai)

 

Boys

August Richard

Braxton Clint (Cooper)

Dexter Sebastian

Fernando James

Jude Louis William (Liv)

Kallan Nash (Mia )

Lewis Arnhem

Mace Kevin

Morgan Liam

Olson James (Lennox)

Parker Quaid

Rayce Keif

Ryder Brendan Herb (Ella, Indiana, Blayne)

Tao Yuan

Wyatt Angus (Riley, Dallas)

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Poppy and Scarlett

Boys: Jack

(Photo shows camel-trekking near Alice Springs)

Pepi and Serendipity

12 Friday Apr 2013

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Maisie Emerson and Talon Darius

Marco and Anton (Bella, Georgia)

Tevita William Gary and Tevita Leonardo Enzo (Arabella)

 

Girls

Aenid Anne (Felicity, Elise)

Angel Crystal (Summer, Orlando)

Annabelle Grace Elshadai

Arya Matisse (Layne)

Carys Helena

Emerald Alea (Amber)

Jocelyn Ann (Jenni, Jayden)

Kahlea Nicole (Kyle)

Margaret Rose

Pepi Patricia (Maisy, Mac, Louis)

Serendipity Joan (Lorelai)

Sydney Glenys (Ebony)

Valentina Pauline (Rory)

Vaydah Angel (Tajiah, Harlee)

Willow Alice Twiggy (Cosby, Star)

 

Boys

Albert Ronald (Chantilly)

Alfie Olivier (William)

Arthur Amos

Dexter David

Hector Ross (Cody, Jackson, Oliver)

Jasper Lyndon

Jordie Craig (Charlie, Indie)

Joseph Jan

Kevin Patrick (Deklin, Abby)

Odyn Gregory (Oskar)

Stefan Loui (Alessia)

Tanachok James (Em, Irena)

Tobias Kenneth “Toby”

Tyson Jet (Toby)

Will Stephen Morrell

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Lucy

Boys: Benjamin

(Photo shows Melbourne skyline, including the antique Skipping Girl Vinegar sign)

Loki and Thor

05 Friday Apr 2013

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100-deloraine-7Twins

Rhea London and Nate River

Syd Bruce and Penny Rose (Darby)

 

Girls

Ada Nell (Evie)

Aisolina Hayley Malia (Hayley)

Amity Belle (Charlie, Bridie, Paddy)

Athanasia Angelique (Kosta)

Elsie Margaret

Genevieve Aria (Connor, Isobel, Taylor)

Havana Rose

Jennifer Jane (Hayley, Zoe)

Kinzee Violet Minnie

Kiora Lily (Taneka, Minty)

Mietta Mimma

Reba Mae

Ruby-Rose June

Sarina Louise (Gianluca, Allegra, Zeno)

Zaylie May (Brike, Riley)

 

Boys

Alex John (Abbey, Ayden, Axel)

Archibald Sidney “Archie” (Zoe)

Baxter Ruben

Curtis Jozsef

Everett Dallas

Felix Joachim (Sebastian)

Huxley Gregory George

Layne Darcy

Lennox Rohan

Loki Kenneth

Matteo Adrian (Luca, Ariana)

Ollie Ron

Sheldon Wayne

Thor Aaron (Violet, Ashe)

Zeff Leigh

 

Most popular names this week

Girls: Grace

Boys: Cooper

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